Robert C. "Uncle Bob" Martin and Charles Max Wood dive into the intricacies of the last 5 points of the Programmer's Oath. They discuss how programmers have the responsibility to continue to improve their programs, their teams, their teams' practices, and continue to learn.

Sandro Mancuso runs a company that updates projects to use modern tools, techniques, and libraries. Since many companies have systems that have evolved through various programmers, techniques, and frameworks. Sometimes they continue to be used by the company, but lack support, don't perform as needed, or are hard to add features to. He walks Chuck through the process he uses to upgrade older applications.

Chris Powers joins the Clean Coders podcast again to talk about how to be ready to seize opportunities and handle trials. Life has given us a huge pile of uncertainty lately. Chris and Chuck discuss how to create some certainty and how to grow during times like this.

Eric rejoins the show to talk about the things that the iOS development community is debating. The first thing brought up is a tweet by Ben Sandofsky around being concise versus being readable. Stay tuned to see Eric's thoughts on the other debates happening in the iOS development community.

Robert "Uncle Bob" Martin rejoins the podcast to discuss the Programmer's Oath. Bob wrote the Programmer's Oath in 2015. The conversation covers the first 4 points of the Programmer's Oath and the ethics involved in writing software that builds and runs our world.

Daniel Markham is writing a book about coding practices. One of the chapters he's been writing is about naming things in your code. He walks through several strategies and answers questions Chuck poses about how to make sure that your code communicates and functions in ways that keeps the code maintainable.

Charles originally interviewed Jonathan at a restaurant in Utah, but there was an issue with the recording and they wound up re-recording remotely due to COVID-19. Jonathan starts out talking about what it was like to put together a video for Clean Coders with Uncle Bob present. Jonathan then talks about taking Uncle Bob up to Snowbird to see where the Agile Manifesto was conceived and signed. We then talk about team organization, hiring, and other challenges of working in a team.

Michael Whatcott is a band teacher turned developer working at SmartyStreets. He talks through the processes and procedures we take for granted as software developers.

Micah Martin has taken over maintaining the codebase at Clean Coders. He and Chuck discuss how he's working to refactor the codebase into "clean code" and how he's worked with apprentices in the past to teach them to write and refactor to clean code.

Eric Crichlow is a software developer in the Phoenix area with 24 years of experience, and he has spent the last 11 doing mobile development. He has also recently released the first three episodes of a Native IOS videos for Clean Coders and wrote the afterword in Uncle Bob’s latest book, Clean Agile. The show begins with Eric talking about how he got into programming, which started way back in second grade.

Sandro Mancuso started his consultancy business 6 years ago and is one of the pioneers of software craftsmanship in the UK. He learned software craftsmanship from Uncle Bob in Chicago and brought it to the UK and Europe. He has also written a book called The Software Craftsman. Sandro talks about how he met Uncle Bob and got things started in the UK and Europe.

Chris Powers is the author of Clean Code in the Browser for Clean Coders and VP of engineering for Thinkful. He starts the show by talking about the path he sees people following when they come through Thinkful, which includes weekly meetings with a mentor in the industry. Every person that uses Thinkful comes out prepared for an entry-level position or apprenticeship.

Daniel Markham is a systems architect and self-taught programmer. He got to know the Agile team back in the day and hung with that crowd. Right now he is working on three books at home and some sample projects for CryptoCurrency. He talks about his history, how he got connected with Uncle Bob and the Clean Coders, and how he got into training teams on how to run good teams of programmers.

Uncle Bob (Robert C. Martin) has been a coder since 1970, co-founder of cleancoders.com, founder of Uncle Bob Consulting LLC, Master Craftsman at 8th Light Inc, and author of the book Clean Agile. Bob and Chuck start by discussing whether or not there has been a decline in Agile in recent years.