In this episode, Charles explores the nuanced future of Ruby with the insightful Sebastian Wilgosz. They navigate the challenges faced by junior developers in a market dominated by demand for senior and mid-level talent, as well as the imperative to inspire the next generation with the merits of Ruby. The discussion also delves into the evolving landscape of JavaScript-free applications and the potential resurgence of back-end technologies. Join them as they dissect the complexities of Ruby's market position and the innovative strides made by the Hanami framework, offering a glimpse into the diverse potential of Ruby in non-web development domains.