Returning guest, Trae Robrock is the founder of greenbits.com but eventually sold the company. In addition, he experimented with various technologies such as node.js, lambda, python, etc. before returning to Rails. He also got into real estate and started a new tech company in the real estate space called," https://comfort.ly". Trae joins the show with John and Valentino to discuss his experience and challenges encountered in developing the applications. Moreover, they also tackle some of the tools and software that he used to maintain the apps.