00:45 - Introducing the Wood brothers and their work
3:05 - Upgrading Rails without breaking it
6:25 - Working with clients with technical debt
12:20 - Frequently seen projects and clients
14:45 - Upgrading clients from older versions of Rails
22:50 - Why do clients push off upgrading?
28:10 - How do you know when it’s time to upgrade?
34:35 - Finding the right clients
37:50 - Avoiding technical debt
40:30 - Upgrading Rails yourself
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Special Guests: Ben Wood and Joshua Wood.
