Our jobs are hectic and there are always multiple priorities we have to stay on top of. Mohammed Osman joins us on the show and runs us through the tools and methodologies he uses to stay productive both as an individual and also on a team.

 

Hello and welcome to another episode of Adventures in.NET. I'm Sean Clayboy, your host, and we put today, Weh-Loo. Anyway. Good, good. Would you send some cold weather my way? Do you have some of that? Yeah, we're in a heat wave, so drying out, drying it up. Hopefully there are some fires going on, but not too bad. So hopefully no standard control. All right, so let's bring out our guest today. Let's welcome Mohammed Osman. Welcome, Mohammed.

 

Sean, how are things? Haha yeah, it's too cold here. Yeah, it's too cold here. You can see my big hoodie. I got hoodie I got. Oh wow.

 

Thank you so

 

Yeah,

 

much, you are welcome.

 

oh, you're welcome. Thanks for reaching out to us and become a guest. So. We looked at your website and the things that you have done in the past, and a lot of things seem real interesting. So I think what we want to talk about first is, you know, things about making you a better developer, being productive, things along those lines. So where should we start?

 

Yeah, I find that actually to be, I find this to be quite interesting, the discussion about the developer's productivity, because you can look at it from a different angles, right? One angle you can look at is to become productive, like from a technical point of view,

 

So what's this tool called?

 

by using tools,

 

Loom.

 

you know, things like Resharber, by using code templates that

 

And what

 

will

 

does it do?

 

fasten your development productivity. But also you can look at it from a different perspective, like an organizational perspective. You can try to multiply the productivity of your organization and the people around you by mentoring them,

 

Oh,

 

by coaching

 

and is it

 

them,

 

only records the browser or does it record the whole

 

by

 

window?

 

writing documentation that can be reused

 

So the whole

 

multiple

 

desktop.

 

times. So there are multiple ways to look at that. Even if you want to take it extra step, you can look at increasing the productivity on the community level by speaking in meetups and conferences, contributing to the open source. So whatever

 

Okay,

 

things

 

cool.

 

that you can utilize technology with in order to gain leverage and in order to scale up. your value that makes you much more productive developer. So I don't only look at it from just a tooling perspective and just the code I'm only writing, but also

 

We're gonna

 

the

 

say

 

environment

 

like...

 

surrounding me.

 

Have you found that there's certain things that developers

 

So I just

 

get

 

you

 

more

 

guys

 

help out

 

Sean

 

of

 

doing a talk

 

versus some of the others?

 

That's very interesting and yes actually

 

I'll ask, um...

 

I think the recorded videos are extremely helpful

 

So

 

so

 

I'll

 

whenever

 

start

 

there

 

asking

 

is

 

the

 

an

 

question.

 

issue or I want to explain a certain configuration

 

What about Live

 

rather

 

Share? Do

 

than

 

you

 

exchanging

 

ever use Live Share

 

Slack

 

on

 

messages

 

Visual Studio?

 

or

 

Do

 

just

 

you

 

booking

 

think that's

 

a meeting

 

useful?

 

with that person. If I feel this is something that's gonna repeat, I just jump quickly to a tool called Loom that you can install as a browser extension. It's extremely usable. And just explain whatever I want and then I share it with that person and I make sure that it's accessible somewhere, either in a team wiki or something like that. Loom, yeah. L-O-O-M. It enables you to do like very user experience friendly screen recording. It's a browser plugin. You just click on that plugin and it will start the recording directly. You can record the whole desktop if you download their desktop version. It's also extremely user friendly. You can have it in your tripod and just click on it and it will gonna fire up the recording.

 

Okay, so it looks like they have a free version, but they also have some paid versions with more features and things like that. So people can try out the free version first and decide if

 

I

 

they want

 

actually

 

to go to a paid version.

 

find that to

 

So

 

be harder.

 

that looks interesting.

 

I've tried

 

Okay,

 

doing it, I just don't have the discipline. I

 

what's

 

find

 

the

 

it

 

next

 

better

 

thing

 

for

 

to

 

me

 

make

 

once

 

me?

 

I get into a groove to just keep

 

Sorry.

 

going. So I find it hard for me if I can't do the 25 minutes, whatever, to do the full 25 minutes, I don't have the discipline to do that. And also

 

No, go

 

I

 

ahead.

 

find it

 

Wait.

 

hard to stop once I get in the groove,

 

Yes.

 

just to add a stop for just five minutes. But that's just me, I think so.

 

it's useful but my experience with it sometimes it's not that responsive i don't know what the reason i feel it's lagging behind but if it works actually it's really nice because i like the way they try to make the user experience similar you know like working in a google docs so yeah if i haven't tried it for a while but if they improve that part and they make it faster i think i'm gonna use it as well and uh Also like from, you know, working way, one methodology I found it extremely helpful to increase my productivity is the Pomodoro technique, where you work for 25 minutes and then you rest for five minutes. That's extremely useful because, you know, it helps you to

 

You

 

stay

 

don't-

 

focused whenever I'm running a Pomodoro. That's for 25 minutes. And I wanna just... distract myself into Facebook or something like that I look oh no there's 17 minutes remaining I

 

It

 

should

 

probably also

 

hold

 

depends

 

on

 

on your job as well.

 

so you feel that

 

Um,

 

like you

 

like,

 

know there

 

I

 

is this

 

don't know,

 

cake

 

it would

 

at

 

be

 

the

 

great

 

end

 

if you

 

like

 

have a

 

you

 

job

 

have a

 

where

 

5 minutes

 

all you

 

break

 

do

 

you can

 

is

 

do that

 

code or whatever,

 

Yeah.

 

I

 

but

 

find that to

 

I

 

be

 

think

 

extremely

 

most of us

 

productive

 

have jobs where we're kind of regularly interrupted

 

Yeah,

 

anyway,

 

yeah,

 

so,

 

I like that.

 

um, yeah. Like emails, you know, teams chats and things like that.

 

Yeah, it depends, I think, on the person. Like if you can get into the flow mode, then actually I don't think it really makes sense to just interrupt it with a break. I know some people, they can work for three, four hours without interruption and they become extremely productive.

 

Yeah, but I think maybe people that do that, you know, are reproductive for that period of time. But afterwards, they kind of have to recharge, so they probably end up needing more than like the five minute break or whatever to, you know, kind of get back to some of that energy to, you know, get back in and do things. So the more you put off those five minutes, the more you have to, you know, bank those and use those, you know, once you finally do free up some time. So if you skip too many, you're going to find yourself you know, needing a half an hour or an hour break before you can really come back and hit it again.

 

Yeah, that makes sense. It's more sustainable, right?

 

Right, right.

 

Yeah,

 

You know,

 

with the pomegranate.

 

I totally agree with, you know, some people might not be able to do it for 25 minutes, but you probably shouldn't put off more than one or two of those timers before you do take a break.

 

Ah yes. yes i find it only useful like for the deep work as you mentioned but if you need to do meetings discussions something like that it's it's hard to use that method and then i occupy like in conjunction with that i use a tool called the toggle And Toggle is a time tracker tool. It enables you to track the time you spend on several activities. One example I'm doing, I'm doing freelancing blog posts. And using that tool, I track the time I spend on each blog post, either it's writing, or is it reviewing, or sometimes editing, if I get some change requests. And the good thing with that methodology after some time you have data. So right now I have a clear data that for every 1500 words, including revisions, including everything, I need around 4 to 5 hours. And you know this helps me actually to plan. So if I want to write two blog boss during this month, then I know that, okay, I need to have around 10 hours available during that month. And also if I want to price my services or something like that, I have a very good baseline to base that on. So it helps quite a lot on that aspect if you measure what you are doing.

 

Yeah, I'm familiar with Toggle. I mean, we use it at where I work, basically as a time reporting system, so that they know what project you were working on for certain hours of the day and so on and so forth that they use for then billing out because we're a consulting firm. So yeah, Toggle is really nice. They made some improvements to it lately, so the interface is better than what it used to be a couple of years ago, so it's good for time tracking and reporting and lots of things there, especially in larger teams.

 

Yeah, I really like it. I really like it.

 

Okay, so what else is good for some of those soft skills for developers to get better at?

 

I mean the final part I look at also is you know the planning part or prioritization more accurate more accurately So I use a tool called weak plan that tool is based on Steven What's his name the guy who wrote the seven habits of the most effective people Steven Coffey, right?

 

Oh, Stephen Covey.

 

Stevon

 

Covey,

 

Coffey,

 

yep.

 

yeah You know he has multiple methodologies over there, but the one I mostly use and I use the tool to help me with is The matrix of important versus urgent so if it's something that's important and urgent then do it if it's important but not urgent Then you can delay it if it's important if it's urgent but not important you can delegate it if it's not urgent neither important then actually you can just drop it or delete it and actually else this helps me quite a lot because when i'm working on my bomadora timer you know sometimes you just get some ideas bobbing up to your mind sometimes i get oh actually i can add this extension to my blog and i am in the middle of this code and then you know i just use it as external memory so i just go to that tool i write okay external external uh like uh new extension to your blog and then when i'm reviewing week plan later on like at the end of the day or at the end of the week i review the tasks and then i started thinking actually does that really make sense do i really need to do it now okay say okay actually you know what this is not important right now let me push it three months And this way by reviewing all those tasks and all those things, you know, that come up to them, may interrupt me and having them in a single place and reviewing them later on against this filter using the matrix I just described, drop delegate or do that's called is in our matrix, I think. I'm able to focus on only the most important things and I don't waste my time doing things that make me feel productive but actually they are not adding much value to my work or to my life. Oof.

 

Okay, so those are some of the tools and techniques that you use to, you know, make your soft skills and your productivity better. Is there anything else that developers should know about?

 

I think that's it pretty much and I think increasing more tools actually can you know become counterproductive So yeah, these just are the must These are the tools I mostly use Tuggle and weak plan. I try to reduce the amount of tools

 

Okay. Okay. So I think you're also involved in lots of training type things for developers and you know, not only improving their, their soft skills, but their, their hard skills, their technical skills. So tell us a little bit about that.

 

Yes, I like to share knowledge. Actually, I am a teacher in heart. I used to teach when I graduated. And when I moved actually to the professional life, I actually started missing that part. You know, I like to teach like I have that academic part on my soul. But still, I want to work in the industry. I want to work in technology. I'm not interested in research. I'm interested in teaching. So I started my teaching journey professionally by my blog. This is where I started to share blog posts on several areas, you know, soft skills, Microsoft Azure, coding practices. That blog actually gave me an opportunity to teach with the PluralSight, creating video courses. And actually this is one of the most rewarding experiences. And if I would advise anyone, I would advise them to create video courses. Because you get to learn several skills. You get to learn hard skills like how to record code demos. And actually this is really hard. It might seem simple, but it's really hard how you can edit videos. Even though later on you will outsource that work. But then you will need to do some sort of, uh, like project management, because you need to look at the, uh, the process of creating a video course, like a project, you will need to set some scopes. You will need to break down the deliverables you're going to teach. You need to prioritize them in a certain order, in a, in a certain order, you know, and to do that,

 

Mm-hmm.

 

that requires actually deep thinking. And most importantly, you need to explain things. at the level where the people are, not at your level. Usually as we get more experience we have what's so called the curse of knowledge, you know, you tend to assume just people know whatever else you are you know, which is of course not correct. So you need to go back to like you need to unlearn so to speak what you know. and start building the foundations step by step for the learners so that they get the right learning material at the right level in the right mix of theory and practice and that's another difficult part, right? Because if you put lots of theory, people will just get bored, this is an abstract course, and if you put lots of practice, people will get will gonna feel lost, okay, what I'm doing

 

I think

 

right

 

it really

 

now?

 

brings

 

I'm just

 

out that...

 

jumping from here and there, but I from here to there, but I don't know what

 

I think it

 

actually

 

really brings

 

I'm

 

out

 

doing.

 

that imposter syndrome

 

So

 

as well,

 

the need,

 

to fight

 

you know, like

 

it anyway

 

to craft

 

because

 

all those

 

yeah

 

factors

 

like

 

together,

 

I think we're all scared of doing that

 

is really, really

 

technical

 

helpful.

 

training

 

And actually

 

and then some

 

it affects directly

 

really

 

your

 

smart

 

communication

 

person comes in

 

skills.

 

and

 

You find

 

asks like

 

that

 

a

 

you can

 

really

 

communicate

 

good question

 

better,

 

and you're stumped kind

 

you

 

of

 

can

 

thing

 

share

 

so

 

your ideas better, and

 

I think

 

that

 

it's good

 

directly

 

to

 

reflects

 

it's good practice

 

in

 

for that

 

the opportunities

 

to

 

you

 

deal

 

get.

 

with that so.

 

وعندما تتحرك من هذا الموضوع يمكنك تفضل مصطلحك فقط لأنني أكثر من مصطلح موضوع الموضوع لقد أحصلت على بعض المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع المواضيع الم And even the jobs that where I went for interviews, when they found out that I'm an author at PluralSight, you know, the guy just turned out into the mood that they want to hire me, but they just want to know more about me. It's not, it's no longer a technical interview. Just tell me how you create courses, how the experience, how the community. And another important part is you get connected to... very good community, you get extra opportunities from Pluralsight and I managed to teach like live teaching on another platform called Develop Intelligence. So I can't say anything aside from this is really rewarding experience.

 

Yeah, I can definitely relate to that, you know, with with teaching and things like that really helping, you know, not only, you know, teaching the people that are your students, but also becoming a better developer yourself, because I used to teach programming course at one of the local colleges. And so when I had to prepare for that, you kind of have to really be prepared for knowing what you want to teach, but any questions that they're going to ask. So they'll always ask something you really didn't expect them to ask. And so if you can be prepared and be ready for that, the more you know, the better you will respond and, you know, let all of the students learn from that.

 

Yeah exactly, you forced to learn it actually. Yeah, sorry. Yes, actually, and this is a really important side because If I reflect on myself previously when I used to watch video courses I was super amazed how those people can write that code demo Oh, they are just remembering all you know, all the functions everything Those people are really supermans and I was feeling really imposter because of that But when I started creating video courses, you know, I started to understand the trick actually have everything scripted you just,

 

So did

 

you

 

you

 

know,

 

go from

 

whatever

 

like

 

mistake

 

writing

 

you

 

blogs

 

do, you just cut

 

and

 

it

 

then

 

out.

 

straight into pure

 

And

 

sight

 

Yep,

 

or was

 

yep,

 

in

 

it like

 

order

 

that's the

 

actually.

 

wonder of

 

you know

 

editing.

 

you wrote blogs and then you made a couple

 

Yes.

 

of YouTube videos and then those got popular and then someone

 

And actually

 

asked you to

 

to address

 

make

 

that part on

 

a

 

my

 

paid

 

instructor

 

video?

 

training,

 

Did you want to go through the journey

 

I

 

of

 

learned

 

how

 

some

 

you went

 

trick

 

from

 

from Scott Hanselman, I noted that

 

yeah

 

he

 

just

 

is doing

 

blogging

 

in his conferences

 

for free

 

is

 

to being paid

 

I feel sometimes

 

to make

 

that he intentionally

 

training videos?

 

makes some mistakes, you know, just to make people feel that he is a human. And I follow that approach as well.

 

Yeah, last

 

So

 

I

 

sometimes

 

checked, I think

 

as

 

Scott's a human. Yeah.

 

yeah. I like his style, so I try to replicate that as well. So the students don't feel that I'm a robot or a Superman. I do mistake here. I say, oh, I don't remember that service. You know what? Microsoft updated that. I will need to look at that. So this will make them feel secure. Okay, this is quite normal in this industry. People make mistakes. People need to review the documentation and give psychological safety.

 

So if there's anybody that is out there, thinking about doing presentations at conferences or anything like that, maybe user groups or whatever, and they're a little nervous about those questions that somebody's gonna ask that you don't know the answer to, it is fine to tell them. I don't know the answer right now, but if you let me know how I can get touch you, I'll figure that, find that out and then let you know. So it's always, you can learn, but you can also kind of put that off and say. I don't feel so bad about knowing it because, you know, I'm going to find it out for that person and then get back to him. So that kind of takes the pressure off in case those questions do pop up.

 

بالضبط بالضبط وعلى الحقيقة هذا يجعلك أكثر موضوعاً للمشاكل تعرف ووضع هذا أهم جداً لأن الناس ستنسون ما تقول لهم لكنهم لن ينسون كيف لقد أشعروا بهم Yes, actually I applied myself to PluralSight and at that time I had a couple of blog articles that I used just to strengthen my case.

 

And this is just

 

Then

 

like

 

what

 

a

 

happened to PluralSight,

 

freelancing job, isn't it? You still need like another

 

recruiter,

 

full-time

 

they

 

job,

 

call them

 

is that right?

 

author acquisition team, they contacted me and they gave me like a teaching test. I did that test. I did that test based on their instructions and gave it back to them. They did the evaluation and then they onboarded me to the author platform. And on the author platform, you will be able to see the course opportunities. You can apply to those course opportunities and they will help you throughout the production journey. I had no experience, you know, with sound like audio and video recording before that, but they have a very impressive team. that will support you and they have very good resources. So for anyone if they feel that like the fact that they don't know how to do the media production part, don't worry about that at all if you join, yeah, something like Pluralsight. Even I think I haven't done something for Udemy before, but I have a couple of friends who did that and they said they have very good resources over there as well. And you know, it's just a journey. You start and you learn as you go.

 

So what kind of what led you to wanting to go the plural side or the Udemy route, things like that, instead of just starting your own YouTube channel and doing your training that way?

 

I think the main reason is like the community that you get, you know, automatically by joining other people. And the second

 

I'm guessing

 

reason,

 

there's a finite

 

I want

 

time

 

it actually

 

before

 

to learn the craft from professionals.

 

the content

 

I felt

 

of your

 

that

 

course has become

 

if

 

stale

 

I joined PluralSight,

 

and you've either

 

it

 

got

 

will

 

to update

 

be the fastest

 

it

 

way

 

or

 

actually for me to learn to get to do the

 

it's

 

things

 

just not

 

in the right

 

relevant

 

way.

 

anymore.

 

And I'm quite happy actually with that decision because there are so many things I learned from the community, from the resources that would have taken me so long time to do on my own. Yes, I mean, depending on how active you are on creating courses, but in the community over there in PluralSight, there are some full-time authors. They are able to live off based on that income.

 

Yeah, I know some people that have really built a lot of courses and things like that for Pluralsight, and they seem to enjoy that and really like working there and doing things like that. But, you know, really, there's a lot of time that's really spent developing one of those courses. You know, you might make a course that's, you know, eight, ten hours of video, but it probably takes you months to actually get it all put together. organized, recorded, edited, things like that. So it is a fairly extensive product, but at the end it comes out good, I think.

 

Yes, it's extremely time-consuming process. I'm tracking my numbers on that as well using Tuggle, you know, the methodology we discussed earlier. And I found that for every production hour, I need from 30 to 40 hours based on the course complexity.

 

Yeah, that's almost like you're writing a book, you know, some of those book authors spend that amount of time as well.

 

Yeah, definitely. It depends on the course content. If you are going, you know, heavy on the technology side, like, for example, JavaScript frameworks, then you are doomed, right? Then it must probably be three, six months and it will be outdated. If you go into programming languages, maybe you have like one, two years. But if you are speaking about, you know, like soft skills topics, those type of topics, usually they are evergreen.

 

Yeah, that was one of our episodes that we did on time management and things like that. It seems to be timeless. So, you know, recently because of the value of those type of things, you know, we re-released an episode that we talked about it and we got good response of it. So it's definitely a lot of value there that our listeners really appreciate and like. So that's good. So you teach mostly Azure materials. Is that what you're? You're training on mostly.

 

Yes, my focus right now is Microsoft Stack, in particular Azure from software developers and AI perspectives. That's what I'm focusing on. And sometimes coding best practices and design better and things like that. My blog mission is making your code smart and your career smarter. You know, making your code smart, this involves architecture, AI, using cloud, your career smarter, soft skills on negotiation, speaking, time management. Um...

 

So what are kind of the first things that you teach about Azure?

 

That's interesting question. Of course that really depends on The target audience if we're speaking about developers the most important thing is to start with the foundation, right and I usually start by teaching Very basic cloud concepts the vast majority of us, you know know about cloud like IaaS, SaaS, PaaS models I touch on that really quickly and then I start directly jumping to the Azure platform. So describing how Azure work, the logical structure of Azure like subscriptions, resource groups, resources. And then usually I take them into the relevant tools in Microsoft

 

So you

 

Azure,

 

mentioned the exams,

 

things like

 

what

 

Azure

 

is your opinion

 

CLI,

 

of,

 

Azure

 

from a career

 

Portal,

 

perspective,

 

Azure PowerShell.

 

of getting

 

And

 

all these

 

I explain

 

Azure

 

that there are multiple ways to work with Microsoft

 

certifications?

 

Azure.

 

Do you think it's useful?

 

hands, just to get them hands on. So they can start creating basic services like virtual machine, storage accounts, so they feel a little bit secure. And then from there, I teach them, you know, different services, mainly focused on running and storing applications in Microsoft Azure, you know, things like app services, Azure Kubernetes, not Azure Kubernetes, that's a complex service, but Azure Container Instances, Azure Functions, and then teach them a little bit on SQL Server, Cosmos DB. I don't try to teach everything, like I don't follow the exam material style, because I think that's quite extensive and you end up going extremely horizontal. I try to teach a focused material from specific aspects. And then I jump to the second part, like where I teach them regarding, you know, securing their resources, something, some... some things on VNets and NSG rules, just to implement some infrastructure security, and then securing your code secrets using things like Key Vault. And then I jump into some discussions around the DevOps and infrastructure as a code, how the whole infrastructure that you created in Azure, you can codify it using things like Terraform or PySEP. And actually, before that, I teach how to monitor that. So using resources like application insights. So I try to pick the most used Azure services and put it in a journey, like to build an end-to-end application. But I don't go deep in all those services because otherwise you need infinite amount of time. It's useful actually after you get enough experience. The thing, the only issue I see with certification is that you find, you know, people who are, I think they call them certificate collectors. So you look at their CV, they have a SQL Server certificate, they have a developer certificate and then they have Oracle certificate. I don't think this is a good strategy. A good strategy would be like, you know, to work with one technology one or two years and then start to start getting certified. And the main value I see with certifications, especially when speaking about Microsoft Azure, is that the certificates will teach you what's there. They will not make you master those technologies at all, but at least when you face a business problem you will know, okay, I can use this in this situation. For example, if you are working on a product that requires asynchronous communication. If you have no idea about messaging, you will never think about service like Azure Service Pass or Azure Event Hub. But if you just clear the easy

 

I

 

204

 

think maybe another way to

 

certification,

 

look at it is

 

that's the Azure

 

if,

 

Developer Certification,

 

even if you don't get

 

you

 

paid

 

will know

 

for

 

that

 

it,

 

there is something called

 

if it leads

 

Service

 

to a better

 

Pass.

 

job, then in a way it's kind of a pay right. You're

 

it

 

kind of getting

 

in

 

paid

 

a detailed

 

for

 

way, but

 

doing

 

at least

 

that

 

you

 

community

 

will go to

 

stuff,

 

the

 

isn't

 

MSDN

 

it really?

 

documentation, read about it and yeah, implement it in your solution. And that's the challenge in Microsoft Azure, right? You have hundreds of services and in most of the times you don't know actually what's there, what can fit your scenario, what can be actually reusable or simpler to implement and to save your project time.

 

So should developers think about if they got into doing training and things like that through different services that they could make a living off doing that? Or do you think most developers should just do this as kind of a supplemental income?

 

I think it depends on where you are in the geographical area, but I would say even if you don't need that supplemental income, the sense of that you can generate another income source in your life aside from the employment, this is extremely relieving and gives you the feeling of freedom. So I would recommend just at least to test that feeling, just to generate your first dollar from the internet. And actually your life will totally change, your perspective of things will totally change. And one thing related to the certifications, I have a guide called the ultimate guide to become a Microsoft Azure certified. And in there I teach you the relevant Azure certification for each career path, my methodology in order to clear the certifications. So you can refer that in the show notes. نعم بالضبط يمكنك أن تحضر موظف مختلفة في العمل إذا كنت مطلق وقد حصلت على تفتيش التصميم المنطقية يمكنك أن تسلق إلى موظف التصميم المنطقية لذا إنه جيد جدا ولكن فقط فقط في الوقت الصحيح

 

Okay, Mohammed, so I think we've covered a lot of things about being a better developer, productivity,

 

Very wise.

 

work-life balance, even training and doing things like that. Are some other things left that you want to cover before we kind of start wrapping things up?

 

Yes, I mean like the final word I want to say is that it's really important to focus, you know on your learning as a developer and As the wisdom says that is if you think education is expensive then try ignorance You can see that

 

I don't

 

actually

 

like that.

 

practically in situ in situations, you know I have seen companies for example because they are not investing to teach their developers and when it comes, you know, they have a project they wanna, let's assume that they wanna implement some orchestration workflow. Their developers will implement that workflow in a very ugly code because, you know, they don't know what's there to help them with that and they will end up, you know, building more expensive product, harder to maintain,

 

Sure,

 

difficult

 

um,

 

to change.

 

my pick this week is just

 

But if you

 

a,

 

have the right knowledge

 

just this tiny

 

and the right

 

game

 

education,

 

that um,

 

you will know that there

 

that

 

is

 

I

 

something

 

downloaded

 

called

 

the other

 

Azure

 

day. It's

 

Logic Apps.

 

um, it's

 

It's

 

like

 

a very

 

a beautifully

 

simple drag and

 

kind

 

drop

 

of

 

service that enables you

 

created

 

to create workflow

 

little

 

orchestrations,

 

games called Railways.

 

and

 

It's,

 

it enables you to replace

 

it's basically

 

a lot

 

like you

 

of

 

gotta

 

the

 

control these

 

boilerplate

 

trains and you gotta avoid

 

ugly

 

them from

 

code.

 

crashing. It's not very

 

And

 

long,

 

you

 

only like

 

only

 

30

 

reach

 

levels,

 

that stage

 

but um,

 

if you only

 

but yes,

 

if you

 

it just

 

invest

 

looks

 

in

 

really

 

your education.

 

nice and

 

So,

 

it's quite addictive.

 

and that's

 

So

 

the tricky part

 

I thought

 

about

 

I'd make

 

education.

 

that my

 

You might

 

pick

 

feel that,

 

this

 

okay,

 

week.

 

I have read books, I have read product, I read blog articles, but actually I'm not seeing that money comes into my pocket. But actually the way that money can come to your pocket is by not having to spend money on things that you don't really need. So when it comes to the moment where you need to make a decision on something that you know about, you will make the right decision, avoiding making an expensive decision. Does that make sense?

 

Yeah, totally, totally makes

 

Yeah.

 

sense.

 

Yeah.

 

Okay. Muhammad, if our listeners have questions, how should they get in touch with you? Should they just go to your blog, you know, smartaccode.io, or is there a better

 

Okay,

 

way?

 

I'm still

 

Yes,

 

trying to get over the ending of Game of Thrones,

 

they can

 

so

 

reach me

 

I don't

 

in

 

know

 

my

 

if

 

Twitter handle

 

I wanna take

 

in the

 

this

 

show notes

 

one on.

 

or they can reach in my blog.

 

Okay,

 

They can

 

great.

 

also join my newsletter if they want and over there I send the weekly tips on the same areas I discussed like programming, Azure and soft skills.

 

Okay, good. And the listeners, they can get in touch with the show

 

So

 

and

 

what

 

me,

 

was the movie

 

I'm

 

called?

 

on Twitter. I am at dotnet superhero. So let me know what you think. Give me some topics to cover on the show. If you want to be a guest, reach out. We'd love to hear from you. So with that said, let's move on to picks. So Wei, what's your pick this week?

 

Hehehe

 

Okay. My pick this week is House of the Dragon. So it is starting to show this weekend on HBO. So if you

 

Thank

 

have

 

you.

 

HBO or HBO Max and you liked, you know, Game of Thrones, this is the prequel to Game of Thrones. So, and it's starting this weekend. So this will be, you know, released after it's already started. But as we're talking right now, it's. coming out in just a couple days. So if you like Game of Thrones, you like those kind of things, I think that's a big audience probably does. So check out House of the Dragon. Hahaha Yeah, it should be interesting. All right, Mohammed, do you have a pick for our listeners?

 

Yes, I think it's an old movie, but you know all this gold it's just nodding

 

Which movie, sir?

 

Ноден!

 

Snowden? Is that Edward Snowden?

 

Edward Snowden yeah

 

Yeah. Okay.

 

I just watched

 

And

 

it

 

that

 

I

 

was

 

think three three sorry

 

And the movie is just called Snowden. I didn't

 

Yeah.

 

hear about it. Okay. And

 

Yeah, it's

 

what's

 

very

 

it

 

interesting

 

about?

 

movie.

 

Okay.

 

It's about like a previous NSA agent who did some leaks, you know, and it's very interesting movie. I don't want to give spoilers over here. It's old, but it's gold.

 

Okay. All right. Yeah. It looks like 2016 is when it came out. So

 

Yeah.

 

yeah. All right. I'll do that. All right. Thanks, Mahan, for coming on the show. It was great to meet you and talk about all the interesting topics today. So that was good.

 

Yeah,

 

So

 

thank you so

 

listeners

 

much.

 

get

 

Thanks.

 

in touch with us. Yep. And we'll catch everybody on the next episode of AdventuresIn.net.

 

Thank you so much, thanks Shawn, thanks Wei.